Shilajit, Liquid Minerals & The Staph Problem Nobody's Solving | Brad McDonnell | The Josh Button Podcast Ep 74

EP 74 — Shilajit, Liquid Minerals & The Staph Problem Nobody's Solving | Brad McDonnell | The Josh Button Podcast
Episode 74 · The Josh Button Podcast · @stopkillingtheplants

Shilajit, Liquid Minerals &
The Staph Problem Nobody's Solving

ft. Brad McDonnell · CEO & Co-Founder, Manna Vitality · Founder, Resurge · BJJ Practitioner · Brisbane, Australia
Shilajit Liquid Minerals Fulvic Acid Ocean Plasma Micronutrients Gut-Skin Axis Staph Prevention Resurge Combat Sports Skincare Manna Vitality BJJ Ancestral Supplements
THE JOSH BUTTON PODCAST · EP 74 · @STOPKILLINGTHEPLANTS
Shilajit, Liquid Minerals &
The Staph Problem Nobody's Solving
Brad McDonnell — Manna Vitality · Resurge
mannavitality.com · teamresurge.com · @resurgehq
@STOPKILLINGTHEPLANTS

The Micronutrients Are Gone from the Soil. Here's How to Get Them Back.

Brad McDonnell spent a decade asking one question: what are the best supplements on the planet and why isn't anyone making them properly? That question — asked alongside his business partner and thirty-year friend David Reed — took them from Brisbane to San Francisco to a van traveling the United States, from the Himalayas sourcing Shilajit at 16,000 feet to Tasmania sourcing ocean plasma, building Manna Vitality from scratch with no marketing budget and eventually launching off a single podcast reel that did over a million dollars.

He is also a jiu-jitsu practitioner who has been on the mats for eight years, has had staph himself, has watched the antibiotic cycle destroy fighters' cardiovascular systems and gut flora, and has spent eight months down the rabbit hole of gut-skin axis research to build a solution. That solution is Resurge — a new company, two products, targeting the staph problem in combat sports directly. A preventative nano-film biofilm product called Guard and an acute treatment called Strike, designed specifically to penetrate the biofilm that standard antibiotics and topical treatments cannot.

This episode covers Shilajit from source to sachet, why fulvic acid at high altitude is fundamentally different from what most brands are selling, the gut-skin axis and why your gut health determines how fast a skin infection spreads, why most topical staph treatments actually feed gram-positive bacteria, the microplastics-in-rash-guards conversation nobody in jiu-jitsu is having, and why Brad believes education — personal hygiene, gym protocols, community accountability — is the actual missing piece.

The antibiotics smash the bad stuff and the good stuff at the same time. Your gas tank's gone. And it's not just a recovery from staph — it's a recovery from the prescription drugs too. So we've got to offer a solution.

— Brad McDonnell

What We Cover

00:03Introduction — Brad McDonnell, Manna Vitality, Shilajit & Liquid Minerals
00:28Questioning the Mainstream — Big Pharma, Tim Ferriss, Joe Rogan, Down the Rabbit Hole
01:30Rugby Union Background, Sales Career, Then the Inner Journey
02:15Brisbane, Queensland — Best of Australian Lifestyle + US Capitalism
03:55US-Based Business — Manufactured in Minneapolis, Team in Austin
05:00Sun Life Organics, Khalil — How the Relationship Happened
06:57No Retail Strategy — Direct to Consumer Only, Staying Intimate With Customers
08:25Why Shilajit — Micronutrients Missing from Soils, Fulvic Acid, Cellular Charge
09:3016,000 Feet — Why Altitude Determines Fulvic Acid Quality
11:0044-88% Fulvic Acid Content — What That Means for Blood and Cellular Health
11:23First Time Taking Shilajit — The Buzz, the Foul Taste, and the Body Knowing
12:36Brad's Daily Stack — One Sachet in the Morning, Electrolytes Around Training
13:42Ocean Sachets — The Most Natural Electrolyte Product
15:00The Sachet Innovation — Years of Iteration to Solve the Shilajit Usability Problem
15:22Product Stack — Beta-Glucan (Immune), Vitamin C from Acerola Berry (Not Corn Syrup)
16:5095% of Vitamin C on the Market Is Derived from Corn Syrup
17:00Frequency, Cellular Intelligence, the Magic in the Middle
18:21Masuro Emoto Water Studies — Intention in the Product
19:43Eight Years of Jiu Jitsu — Joe Rogan, Gracie Humaita, First Six Months of Injuries
21:00CrossFit Ego on the Mats — Getting Tied Up by a Scrawny 16-Year-Old Blue Belt
22:30Sabbatical from Work, Inner Journey, Jiu Jitsu + Travel + Building Manna Simultaneously
23:42Three Buckets — Family/Partner, Business, Movement/Health. Nothing Else.
25:00Jiu Jitsu and Business Are the Same — You're Going to Suck for a Long Time
27:39Van Life in the US, Presence as the Product, Building on Relationships
29:35Dream 100 List — Russell Brunson, Instagram Outreach, $2M in Stock and No Idea How to Sell
31:00Hundreds of Recipes, Solving the Taste Problem — Vanilla, Coconut, Ancient Herbs
33:00Josh Trent, Wellness Force Radio — The Podcast That Changed Everything
34:30One Podcast Reel, Over a Million Dollars — How Manna Launched
37:21Resurge — The Staph Problem, Gut-Skin Axis, Eight Months of Research
38:00500 Million Bacteria on the Skin at Any Time — Good and Bad
39:00Gram Positive vs Gram Negative — Why Standard Treatments Feed the Problem
40:00Antibiotics and Cardiovascular Destruction — Gordon Ryan and the Gas Tank
41:00Strike (Acute) and Guard (Preventative) — The Two Resurge Products
42:00Nano-Film Biofilm Technology — Dragon Root Extract, 80% Faster Healing in Testing
43:30Three Pillars of Gym Skincare: Personal Hygiene, Community Protocols, Acute Treatment
45:30Mat Cleaning Protocols — Industrial Cleaners, Foot Disinfection, Air and UV
46:04Hydrogen Peroxide Destroys Good Bacteria Too — The Josh Realisation
47:30Microplastics in Rash Guards — The Elephant in the Room in Combat Sports
51:00Plastic Mats, Plastic Clothes, Plastic in Your Mouth — The Body Is Reacting
53:00Silver-Ion Rash Guards, Wool, Bamboo — What Actually Helps
56:00Austin — Biohacking Conference, Training Spots, Kingsway BJJ
01:00:29Discount Code JoshB20 — 20% Off Manna Vitality

What This Episode Covers

Shilajit Fulvic Acid Ocean Plasma Liquid Minerals Micronutrient Depletion Soil Degradation Electrolytes Beta-Glucan Immunity Acerola Vitamin C Gut-Skin Axis Staph / MRSA Prevention Combat Sports Skincare Resurge — Guard & Strike Biofilm Penetration Gym Hygiene Protocols Microplastics in Training Gear

What to Walk Away With

  1. The micronutrients are gone from the soil — and Shilajit at high altitude is one of the only ways to get them back. Mono-cropping and commercial farming practices have stripped the micronutrient content from topsoil globally. The foods you eat contain the macros — protein, fat, carbohydrate — but not the micronutrient density they should. Shilajit, sourced at 16,000 feet in the Himalayas, contains a protective compound in its fulvic acid at concentrations not found lower down the mountain. This produces fulvic acid content of 44 to 88 % in the finished product — the mechanism that charges the blood, supports cellular function, and delivers bioavailable minerals that commercial food supply no longer provides. This is the foundation of Manna Vitality's formulation: not a stimulant, not a fat burner, not a muscle builder. A base layer of cellular nutrition the body is simply not getting anywhere else.
  2. Most of the Shilajit on the market lacks the quality of the ingredient you think you're buying. The vast majority of commercially available Shilajit is sourced from lower altitudes — around 5,000 feet — where the protective fulvic acid compound is present in far lower concentrations. The extraction elevation is not a marketing claim. It is the primary determinant of fulvic acid content and therefore the efficacy of the product. If the brand does not specify altitude and fulvic acid percentage, you do not know what you are getting.
  3. 95% of the vitamin C on the supplement market is derived from corn syrup — not from fruit. Standard ascorbic acid used in most supplements is industrially produced from corn syrup, often with orange food dye to create the appearance of fruit origin. Manna's Immune Plus product uses extract from the Acerola berry — one of the highest natural sources of vitamin C — instead. The principle extends across the supplement industry: the ingredient name on the label does not tell you where it came from or how it was produced. Source matters.
  4. The gut-skin axis is the reason staph spreads faster in some athletes than others. Your skin has over 500 million bacteria on it at any given moment — a balance of good and bad. The gut microbiome directly influences skin microbiome health. Athletes with compromised gut flora — from antibiotics, poor diet, stress, or overtraining — have less robust skin immunity and experience faster, more severe skin infections when exposed. Treating staph only at the skin level while the gut is compromised is addressing the symptom, not the system.
  5. Standard staph treatments — including many topical products — actually feed gram-positive bacteria rather than killing it. Staph bacteria are gram-positive and gram-negative. Many of the antibiotics and topical treatments commonly used in combat sports gyms do not penetrate the biofilm layer of the bacteria. Some actively feed gram-positive strains, making the infection worse or more persistent. The widespread use of hydrogen peroxide — widely believed to be a universal disinfectant — also destroys beneficial skin bacteria alongside the harmful ones, disrupting the skin's natural immune ecosystem. The treatment approach most gyms are using is not only inadequate — in some cases it is counterproductive.
  6. The antibiotic cycle does not just treat staph — it destroys your cardiovascular capacity and gut flora simultaneously. Brad references the pattern seen in high-level competitors including Gordon Ryan: once a fighter goes through a serious antibiotic course for staph, they are not just recovering from the infection. They are recovering from the treatment. The cardiovascular system takes a significant hit. The gut bacteria — the foundation of immunity, energy regulation, and cognitive function — are wiped out. The recovery from the antibiotics can take longer and be more damaging than the infection itself. This is the case for a preventative and biofilm-penetrating topical approach that does not require systemic antibiotics.
  7. Rash guards are plastic bottles worn against your skin — and they may be contributing to the skin infection problem. The vast majority of rash guards are made from synthetic lycra and polyester blends — essentially microplastic fibres pressed against skin that is already compromised from friction and training. Microplastics shed from clothing and accumulate on the skin. The body registers synthetic fibres as a stressor. Combined with plastic training mats, plastic water bottles, and a diet that likely contains significant microplastic contamination, the training environment is creating a continuous low-level chemical insult. No major jiu-jitsu brand is addressing this. Silver-ion treated fabrics, organic cotton, and bamboo are better alternatives — though durability and grip design remain unsolved challenges in the context of grappling.
  8. Three things determine staph risk in any gym — personal hygiene, community protocols, and acute injury management. Brad's framework for Resurge's educational mission: the personal layer (athlete self-awareness, showering within 20 minutes of training, foot disinfection on entry, not training with open wounds); the community layer (gym-wide accountability, mat cleaning protocols, air circulation and UV exposure, no bandaid cover-ups); and the acute layer (treating infections at the earliest pimple stage before they escalate, using products that actually penetrate the biofilm rather than feeding it). All three must operate simultaneously. The weakest link in any gym is the athlete who trains with something covered and says nothing.

What Brad Takes and Why

Core Daily
Manna Sachet
1,000mg Shilajit at 16,000ft (44-88% fulvic acid). 1,000mg ocean plasma. Ancient herbs and spices. One sachet per day snapped into water or coffee. The base layer. Everything else builds on this.
Training Days
Ocean Sachet
Natural electrolytes from Tasmanian ocean plasma. Pre, intra, and post workout. No synthetic electrolyte salts. The most natural electrolyte replacement available. Brad uses 2-3 sachets on heavy training or sauna days.
Immunity
Beta-Glucan
Derived from oats and reishi mushrooms. Supports the gut lining. Directly relevant to the gut-skin axis — a healthy gut lining means better skin immunity and faster resolution of infections.
Immune Plus
Acerola Vitamin C
Vitamin C from Acerola berry extract — not corn syrup. 95% of the vitamin C market is industrially derived. This is the whole-food version. Not a megadose supplement — a real-food sourced micronutrient.
Exclusive Listener Discount
JoshB20
20% off your order at Manna Vitality — use code at checkout.
mannavitality.com
New Company · Brad's Passion Project for Jiu Jitsu
Resurge
Combat sports skincare built on the gut-skin axis. Two products targeting the staph problem at the source — not with antibiotics, not with broad-spectrum topicals that strip your skin, but with a nano-film biofilm-penetrating technology that works the way nothing currently available does.
STRIKE — Acute
Applied at the first sign of a pimple or lesion. Nano-film formula containing root extract and dragonfly extract. Penetrates the biofilm layer of staph bacteria directly. In early testing: reduces healing time by up to 80%. The window is everything — 24 hours untreated is the difference between a minor issue and a major infection.
GUARD — Preventative
Applied before training. Creates a protective biofilm on top of the skin's surface that penetrates the first epidermal layer. Acts as a force field against bad bacteria introduced through mat contact and skin-on-skin grappling. Does not strip good bacteria. Does not require washing off mid-session.

The Three Pillars of Gym Skin Safety

PILLAR 01
Personal Hygiene
Shower within 20 minutes of training. Use wipes to remove mat bacteria immediately if showering isn't possible. Disinfect feet on entry. Do not train with open wounds or covered lesions. If you see a pimple coming up — treat it with Strike immediately, not tomorrow. Self-awareness is the first line of defence.
PILLAR 02
Community Protocols
Gym-wide accountability enforced by coaches. Industrial mat cleaning after every session. Foot disinfection stations at mat entry. Air circulation and UV exposure for dormant periods (gyms that stay closed between sessions without UV or airflow become bacterial incubators). No bandaid training — if it's covered, it stays off the mats. Community standards are only as strong as the weakest member.
PILLAR 03
Acute Treatment
Time off the mat when infection is present — not a bandaid, not a cover-up. Use products that actually penetrate biofilm rather than feeding gram-positive bacteria. Avoid hydrogen peroxide as a primary treatment — it destroys good skin bacteria. Avoid tea tree oil in regular use — the body does not respond well to chronic exposure. Address the gut alongside the skin: beta-glucan, probiotics, gut lining support.

The Full Conversation

The Origin — A Van, a Dream 100 List, and Two Guys Who Had No Idea How to Sell

Brad and David Reed quit their jobs, packed into a van, and drove around the United States with $2 million worth of stock and no performance marketing knowledge whatsoever. Their original assumption: build a website, people come, people buy. They were wrong. What they did have was presence — they were not rushing to the next meeting, not trying to close deals. They had genuine time for people. That quality, Brad argues, is baked into the DNA of Manna Vitality in a way no retroactive brand positioning can replicate. It was not a strategy. It was all they had.

The breakthrough came through a Dream 100 list — Russell Brunson's framework for identifying the hundred people you most want to reach. Brad reached out on Instagram, sent product, got it into the right hands through a connection to Josh Trent of Wellness Force Radio and Wellness and Wisdom. Josh knew a performance marketer in Austin who had been feeding Shilajit to his two-year-old daughter. He had already solved for the specific problem Manna had solved: Shilajit was almost impossible to use conveniently. The sachet format was the product. One podcast reel, over a million dollars.

The Altitude Difference — Why Source Matters

The Shilajit sold by most brands is sourced from approximately 5,000 feet elevation — accessible, scalable, cheaper to harvest. At this altitude the protective compound in the fulvic acid is present in low concentrations. Manna sources from 16,000 feet in the Himalayas, where the compound is found in significantly higher abundance and produces fulvic acid concentrations between 44 and 88%. The difference is not marginal. It is the product.

Three Buckets — The Framework Brad Uses to Run His Life at 46

Brad describes arriving at a point of clarity about priorities that he attributes partly to jiu-jitsu and partly to building a business with a thirty-year friend. He now operates from three buckets only: family (anchored by his relationship with his partner), business, and movement/health (anchored by jiu-jitsu). If those three are full, nothing else is needed and nothing else is sought. The parallel between rolling with the harder guys in jiu-jitsu and tackling the harder problems in business is not metaphorical for Brad — it is operational. The harder roll moves the needle more than the comfortable one. The willingness to do the hard thing in both domains is the same character trait, exercised in different settings.

The Staph Conversation — Why the Current Approach Is Making It Worse

Brad has had ringworm. He has had cellulitis up his neck and chest. He has watched the antibiotic cycle play out in training partners and athletes. He has spent eight months researching the gut-skin axis and the microbiology of staph specifically because the standard community response — antibiotics, hydrogen peroxide, tea tree oil, bandaids over wounds — is either inadequate or actively counterproductive.

The core problem: staph bacteria build a biofilm layer that standard topical treatments and many antibiotics cannot penetrate. Treatments that do not penetrate the biofilm do not kill the infection — they may temporarily suppress surface bacteria while the deeper biofilm remains intact and recolonises. Some treatments actively feed gram-positive bacteria strains. Hydrogen peroxide, widely believed to be a neutral disinfectant, strips all bacteria — disrupting the skin's natural immune ecosystem. Tea tree oil, used as a naturopathic alternative, is not well-tolerated by the body in chronic use.

From the Conversation — The Antibiotic Problem
Brad The antibiotics smash the bad stuff and the good stuff at the same time. Once you start nuking your gut flora, you're just not the same. And the worst part — they smash your cardiovascular system as well. Your gas tank's gone. So it's not just a recovery from staph. It's a recovery from the prescription drugs too.
Josh I actually just recently learned how damaging hydrogen peroxide is. I always thought that was a no brainer — hydrogen peroxide on anything. But it's actually destroying the good as well.

The Rash Guard Problem — The Elephant in the Room

Josh raised the microplastics-in-rash-guards issue during the episode — a conversation almost no one in jiu-jitsu is having publicly. The standard competition rash guard is manufactured from synthetic polyester and spandex blends. These fibres shed microplastics during wear and washing. Worn pressed against skin that is already stressed from friction, heat, and moisture during training, the chronic low-level microplastic exposure contributes to skin irritation, endocrine disruption, and potentially to the skin's reduced ability to maintain its natural bacterial balance. Combined with plastic training mats and what is already a microplastic-saturated diet and environment, the training context is adding insult to injury.

Brad now only wears wool or organic cotton in daily life. He acknowledges the durability problem with cotton in a grappling context but sees silver-ion treated fabrics as the most viable near-term solution for rash guard replacement — antibacterial, natural odour resistance, and compatible with performance fabric manufacture.

Find Brad & Both Companies

  • Manna Vitality — Shilajit & Liquid Mineral Supplements Use code JoshB20 for 20% off. All products direct to consumer. mannavitality.com
  • Resurge — Combat Sports Skincare & Staph Prevention Guard (preventative nano-film) and Strike (acute treatment). Early access — follow for launch updates. teamresurge.com
  • Resurge on Instagram @resurgehq
  • Brad McDonnell on Instagram Leadership, mindset, health, business — Brad's personal account. Search: Brad McDonnell on Instagram
  • Sun Life Organics — Khalil Rafati Wellness cafe and community hub where Manna Vitality has retail presence. Austin, Texas and Southern California locations.
  • Dr. Beth — Jyzen Labs, Mill Valley, San Francisco Functional medicine doctor, quantum biology and cell biology researcher. Manna Vitality's founding science advisor.

The Micronutrients Your Food Isn't Giving You.

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Featured Guest
Brad McDonnell

CEO and co-founder of Manna Vitality — a premium liquid mineral supplement company built around high-altitude Shilajit and ocean plasma, manufactured in the US, sold direct to consumer, stocked exclusively at Sun Life Organics in retail. Former professional rugby union player and competitive CrossFit athlete. Eight-year jiu-jitsu practitioner out of Brisbane, Australia. Founder of Resurge — a combat sports skincare company addressing staph, ringworm, and skin infections with nano-film biofilm-penetrating technology built on gut-skin axis science. Spent 10 years questioning mainstream supplement and pharmaceutical culture before building the product he actually wanted to take.

Disclaimer — This episode is for educational and informational purposes. Nothing discussed constitutes medical or dermatological advice. Resurge products are in early testing and not yet widely available. If you are experiencing a skin infection, consult a qualified medical professional. The discount code JoshB20 is provided by Manna Vitality and reflects their affiliate arrangement with this podcast.

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